12 Proofs the Messiah DID NOT Pre-Exist!

By the Hope of Israel Ministries (Ecclesia of YAHWEH)

The plan of YAHWEH God has been overlooked by the people in this world because they have accepted the PAGAN DOCTRINE of a pre-existent savior who did it all for them. This pagan doctrine was contrived for the purpose of BLINDING people’s minds to the TRUE Savior sent by YAHWEH, and to YAHWEH’s true plan of bringing His sons to perfection. The following proofs show that Yeshua the Messiah NEVER EXISTED prior to his human birth in Bethlehem two thousand years ago. By John D. Keyser

Proof #1

1/. Hebrews 6:13, 16. In Hebrews 6:13 and 16 we read —

“For when YAHWEH made a promise to Abraham, because He could swear by NO ONE GREATER, He swore by Himself.

“For men indeed swear by the GREATER, and an oath for confirmation is for them an end of all dispute.”

In these inspired verses we find that there was NO GREATER BEING by Whom to confirm this promise to Abraham. However, this goes against the doctrines of the Trinity and of the PRE-EXISTENCE — for if Yeshua pre-existed as an equal to the Father as many believe, this promise would have been ratified by BOTH the Father AND the Son. This is because neither one would be greater than the other. But, we are clearly shown in these scriptures that (1): Not only was Yeshua NON-EXISTENT at the time the promise was made to Abraham, but (2) we find that YAHWEH the Father is greater than the Son. This emphatically disproves the pagan Christian doctrines of the Trinity and of the pre-existent Savior.

Proof #2

2/. Matthew 24:36. Note carefully this statement which the Messiah made — which also proves there is no one greater than YAHWEH God —

“But of that day and hour NO ONE KNOWS, no, not even the an-gels of heaven, but my Father ONLY.

Now, if the Messiah was — as some teach today — YAHWEH (or God) of the Old Testament, then he would be “The Father” and he would know the day and hour of his Second Appearance! But he clearly shows here that he does NOT know that day and hour — ONLY the heavenly Father knows.

Similarly, if the Messiah had pre-existed ALONGSIDE the Father from at least the Creation as an equal or “second God,” then he would have been a being who possessed ALL KNOWLEDGE, just as the Father does, and he still would have known the day and the hour of his appearance.

Proof #3

3/. I John 5:7. The Old Testament prophets nowhere promulgated a doctrine about a “pre-existent savior” — and neither did the Messiah or the apostles in the New Testament. But the pagans, anxious to incorporate this doctrine (which was one of THEIR oldest and most honored) into their “Christian” religion, went so far as to ADD verses to the Bible to prove their doctrine of pre-existence and the Trinity. This is something the scriptures adamantly condemn.

Here is a verse that was ADDED for this very reason —

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” (I John 5:7).

What is wrong with this scripture? Simply this: This entire verse is NOT even found in the Greek writings before the year 400 A.D.! The apostle John NEVER wrote this — nor would it have ever entered his mind!

The later translators knew this verse was ADDED and bogus, yet they failed to italicize it, which is a standard practice to show the reader that those particular words and phrases were added. This, in itself, proves that those in control of translating the scriptures were those who embraced the doctrines of paganism — and NOT the every word of YAHWEH God!

The Emphatic Diaglott, page 803, shows this verse MISSING in their translation — and also explains WHY —

7. The received text reads, “For there are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth.” This text concerning the heavenly witnesses is not contained in any Greek manuscript which was written earlier than the 15th century. It is not cited by any of the Greek ecclesiastical writers; nor by any of the early Latin fathers, even when the subject upon which they treat would naturally have led them to appeal to its authority. It is therefore evidently spurious; and was first cited (though not as it now reads) by Vigilius Tapsensis, a Latin writer of no credit, in the latter end of the fifth century; but by whom forged, is of no great moment, as its design must be obvious to all. — Improved Version.

Adam Clarke, in his Clarke’s Commentary, goes on to tell us:

Verse 7. [There are three that bear record] The Father, who bears testimony to his Son; the Word or Logos, who bears testimony to the Father; and the Holy Ghost, which bears testimony to the Father and the Son. And these three are one in essence, and agree in the one testimony, that Jesus came to die for, and give life to, the world.

But it is likely this verse is not genuine. It is wanting in every MS. of this epistle written before the invention of printing, one excepted, the Codex Montfortii, in Trinity College, Dublin: the others which omit this verse amount to one hundred and twelve.

It is wanting in both the Syriac, all the Arabic, Ethiopic, the Coptic, Sahidic, Armenian, Slavonian, etc., in a word, in all the ancient versions but the Vulgate; and even of this version many of the most ancient and correct MSS. have it not. It is wanting also in all the ancient Greek fathers; and in most even of the Latin.

The words, as they exist in all the Greek MSS. with the exception of the Codex Montfortii, are the following:-

“6. This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not by water alone, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7. For there are three that bear witness, the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree in one. 9. If we receive the witness of man, the witness of God is greater, &c.”

The words that are omitted by all the MSS., the above excepted, and all the versions, the Vulgate excepted, are these:– [In heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one and there are three which bear witness in earth.]

However, we will allow the book Forgery in Christianity, by Joseph Wheless, to explain WHY this was not deleted by some of the later Bible versions —

Erasmus first detected the fraud and omitted the forged verse in his edition of the Greek Testament in 1516. (New Comm. Pt. III, p. 718-19.) This verse 7, bluntly speaking, is a forgery: “It had been willfully and wickedly interpolated, to sustain the Trinitarian doctrine; it has been entirely omitted by the Revisers of the New Testament.” (Roberts, Companion to the Revised Version, p. 72) “This memorable text,” says Gibbon, “is condemned by the silence of the Fathers, ancient versions, and authentic manuscripts, of all the manuscripts now extant, above four score in number, some of which are more than 1200 years old.” (Ch. xxvii, p. 598.) Speaking of this and another, Reinach says: “One of these forgeries (I John v, 7) was subjected to interpolation of a later date…If these two verses were authentic, they would be an affirmation of the doctrine of the Trinity, at a time when the gospels, and Acts and St. Paul ignore it. It was first pointed out in 1516 that these verses were an interpolation, for they do not appear in the best manuscripts down to the fifteenth century. The Roman Church refused to bow to the evidence…The Congregation of the Index, on January 13, 1897, with the approbation of Leo XIII, forbade any question of the authenticity of the text relating to the “Three Heavenly Witnesses.” It showed in this instance a willful ignorance to which St. Gregory’s rebuke is specially applicable: ‘God does not need our lies.'” (Orpheus, p. 239.) But His Church does; for without them it would not be; and with out the forged “Three Heavenly Witnesses,” there would be not a word in the entire New Testament hinting the existence of the Three-in-One God of Christianity. The Holy Trinity is an unholy Forgery!

The first perpetrator of this FRAUD added the pagan doctrine of the Trinity to the Bible — that there are three gods in one: the Father (one), the “Word” (Yeshua the Messiah; two) and the Holy Spirit, a personified third god (three). However, the other perpetrators of this false doctrine are just as guilty of deception since they DID NOT remove this verse from subsequent versions of the Bible when they uncovered the truth about it!

In naming the second person of this Trinity the “Word,” the perpetrators of I John 5:7 were also promulgating the FALSEHOOD of the pagan concept found in John 1:1 (KJV) — which says:

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

Take note that the word “Word” is CAPITALIZED in this verse — in order to make it appear as though this were speaking about a being or a person. And, in this particular case, the translators of the King James Version did want you to believe that the “Word” was God, and that “He” was “in the beginning WITH God” — that “He” was pre-existent and equal with YAHWEH.

It is interesting to note that in the Chaldee Targums (paraphrases of parts of the Old Testament written in the Chaldee language) we find that YAHWEH God is called “the Word of the Lord” and equated with the Shekinah Glory! It is, in fact, common practice in the Targums to find the word LORD (YAHWEH) translated “the Word of the Lord” — notice:

KING JAMES VERSION. Numbers 10:35, 36: “And it came to pass, when the ark set forward, that Moses said, Rise up, LORD [YAHWEH], and let thine enemies be scattered; and let them that hate thee flee before thee. And when it rested, he said, Return, O LORD [YAHWEH], unto the many thousands of Israel.”

This latter part becomes, in the Targums:

CHALDEE TARGUMS. Numbers 10:36: “Return now, O WORD OF THE LORD, to Thy people Israel, make the glory of Thy SHEKINAH to dwell among them, and have mercy on the thousands of Israel.”

Now look at Numbers 11:20:

KING JAMES VERSION. Numbers 11:20: “Because that ye have despised the LORD which is among you.”

CHALDEE TARGUMS. Numbers 11:20: “Because ye have contemptuously rejected THE WORD OF THE LORD whose SHEKINAH dwelleth among you.”

The Greek word “Logos” was very dear to pagan minds; but, nevertheless, should properly have been translated “MANIFESTATION” or “SHEKINAH GLORY” in this case — and certainly not confused with Yeshua the Messiah!

The MANIFESTATION OF YAHWEH God was with YAHWEH “in the beginning,” and it was YAHWEH’s manifestation (Greek possessive form). YAHWEH’s manifestation (or Shekinah Glory) was with him in the beginning, and His manifestation was His very own, as we see in the first chapter of the Book of Genesis, where YAHWEH said: “Let there be light; and there was light.”

Proof #4

4/. John 1:14. In John 1:14 we find that according to (or by) YAHWEH’s manifestation (Shekinah Glory) flesh was CREATED. That Yeshua was born after being begotten by his father Joseph, and being CONCEIVED by his mother Mary, is a scriptural FACT. Those who believe John says that the Messiah was conceived by YAHWEH God planting sperm within Mary should read what John says further on in his book! Notice —

And they said, Is not this Jesus, the SON OF JOSEPH, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven? (John 6:42).

The Messiah’s neighbors in Nazareth had NO doubt as to who his father was — and there was no question that JOSEPH was the Messiah’s legitimate father! Of course — like any other baby — YAHWEH’s Shekinah Glory was NOT with Yeshua at his birth; he had to LEARN YAHWEH’s laws and commandments and way of life as he grew. But when he reached the age of about 30 years old and had entered into YAHWEH’s ministry, he was the walking, speaking manifestation (dabar-logos) of YAHWEH God, because he knew the truth of YAHWEH, he obeyed the truth of YAHWEH, and he proclaimed the truth of YAHWEH!

And what is YAHWEH’s “truth”? Psalm 119:142 and Psalm 119:151 show that YAHWEH’s LAW and COMMANDMENTS are “the truth.”

Indeed, Yeshua the Messiah was YAHWEH’s manifestation in the flesh — CREATED IN THE FLESH ACCORDING TO (OR BY) THE SHEKINAH GLORY of YAHWEH GOD. And, in the same way, each saint or true Christian should also be the “manifestation of YAHWEH God created in the flesh,” — for we should all obey in the same way that the Messiah did.

It should be apparent to any honest person by now that in the BEGINNING WAS THE MANIFESTATION OF YAHWEH GOD, and this MANIFESTATION was the power of YAHWEH. The same manifestation (Shekinah Glory) was in the beginning with YAHWEH and, according (or by) YAHWEH’s manifestation, flesh was created (human beings, starting with Adam) and then, later, the Messiah “dwelt among us” (human beings) and “we beheld his [the Messiah’s] glory; the GLORY of the only begotten [at that time — more are to follow] of the Father — full of honor and truth.”

The word for word Greek translation of John 1:14, from The New International Version Interlinear Greek-English New Testament, is as follows —

“And the Word flesh became and tabernacled among us, and we beheld the glory of him, glory as of an only begotten from a father, full of grace and of truth.”

This same deception is continued by the translators in John 1:14 (KJV) which says:

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The word which has been translated “MADE” in the above verse, is word #1096 in Strong’s Greek Dictionary — and means:

1096. ginomai, ghin’-om-ahee; a prol. and mid. form of a prim. verb; to cause to be (“gen”-erate), i.e., (reflex.) to become (come into being),

Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon to the New Testament, by Joseph H. Thayer, shows that the word means —

1. to become, i.e. to come into existence, begin to be, receive being: absol. Jn. i 15, 30 (….); Jn. viii. 58 (….); 1 Cor. xv. 37 (….); ek tivos, to be born, Ro. i. 3 (…); Gal. iv. 4 (….); Mt. xxi. 19 (…., come from); of the origin of all things, Heb. xi. 3; …., Jn. i. 3, 10.

The words that have been translated “only begotten” in this scripture are actually only one word in the Greek — #3439 in Strong’s Greek Dictionary and means —

3439. ….. monogenes, mon-og-enace‘; from 3441 and 1096; only-born, i.e. sole:- only (begotten, child).

As you can see, word #3439 comes from the word #3441, which means: ONLY, and word #1096, which means: TO CAUSE TO BE, COME INTO BEING, TO EXIST —

3441. …. monos, mon’-os; prob. from 3306; remaining, i.e. sole or single; by impl. mere:- alone, only, by themselves.
3442. …. ginomai, ghin’-om-ahee; a prol. and mid. form of prim. verb; to cause to be (“gen”-erate), i.e. (reflex.) to become (come into being).

The correct translation in the Greek confirms even more that Yeshua the Messiah was BEGOTTEN — which means he was caused to be, in other words, BROUGHT INTO EXISTENCE.

Therefore, the correct translation of John 1:14 is as follows:

According to (or by) the manifestation [Shekinah Glory] flesh was created; and dwelling among us, who are flesh, and we beholding his glory, was the glory of the ONLY BEGOTTEN [at that time] of the Father, full of honor and truth.

Proof #5

5/. Galatians 4:4. Yeshua “CAME FROM” the Father, just as you and I “came from” our fleshly fathers. Yeshua clearly had a beginning — and the apostle Paul tells us what that beginning was :

But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law.

Again, the word translated “MADE” in this scripture is word #1096 in Strong’s Greek Dictionary, and means —

1096. …. ginomai, ghin’-om-ahee; a prol. and mid. form of a prim. verb; to cause to be (“gen”-erate), i.e. (reflex.) to become (come into being),

Thayer’s Greek Lexicon again shows us word #1096 to mean —

1. to become, i.e. to come into existence, begin to be, receive being: absol., Jn. 1. 15, 30 (….); Jn. viii. 58 (….); 1 Cor. xv. 37 (….); …., to be born, Ro. i. 3 (…., come from); of the origin of all things, Heb. x1. 3; …, Jn. i. 3, 10.

As a result, the CORRECT translation of Galatians 4:4 should be:

But when the appointed time had fully come, YAHWEH sent forth His son, coming into existence from a woman, coming into existence under the subjection of the Law.

Yeshua the Messiah came into existence from a woman — and came into existence under the Law. All the scriptures agree that Yeshua came into EXISTENCE in the FLESH — and not one second before! However, due to the corruptions of the translators, KEY verses in the Bible were changed by ADDING words or by DECEPTIVE renderings. History shows that we have Constantine the “Great” — the so-called “savior” of Christianity — to thank for helping to establish a corrupted and pagan Christianity that features the doctrines of a PRE-EXISTENT SAVIOR within a Trinity.

Proof #6

6/. John 17:5. In John 17:5 we read the following —

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

To the untrained mind it sounds as though this verse is upholding the teaching that the Messiah pre-existed before his fleshly birth. But, by comparing the Greek text to the English translation and then letting OTHER SCRIPTURES interpret this scripture for us, it becomes very obvious that this scripture was also TAMPERED WITH — TWISTED to fit prevailing pagan concepts!

The New International Version Greek-English New Testament by Alfred Marshall, shows the Greek word for word translation of this verse:

5. and now glorify me thou, Father, with thyself….with the glory which I had before the world to be with thee.

The first word underlined and translated “I HAD” is the IMPERFECT FORM of the Greek word “echo” — word #2192 in Strong’s Greek Dictionary. This word means: to have to hold. However, Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament shows this word to mean: TO HAVE IN STORE! Notice —

…. to have a thing in readiness, have at hand, have in store:

Therefore, the word translated “I HAD” can — and should — have been translated “I AM TO HAVE.” This glory that the Messiah is said to have, is to be BEFORE the world TO COME.

The next word underlined — translated “BEFORE” — is word #4253 in Strong’s, and means: PREVIOUSLY; that is, “PREVIOUS” to the world TO COME —

4253. …. pro, pro; a prim. prep.; “fore,” i.e. in front of, prior (fig. Superior) to:- above, ago, before, or ever. In comp. it retains the same significations.

The third word underlined — translated “TO BE” — is shown by A Critical Lexicon and Concordance to the English and Greek New Testament (by Ethelbert W. Bullinger) to mean “COME”:

elvai (pres. infinit.) to be, 33; be, 12; to have been, 1; have been, 1; that…am (art, is, are, be), 27; that…was (were), 10; had been, 1; that…may (might, should) be, 6; to be made, 1; come, 1.

Now let’s read this verse in the way that it should have been translated —

And now, O Father, You glorify me beside Your own self, with the glory which I AM TO HAVE with You BEFORE the world to come.

The Messiah was only asking YAHWEH God to glorify him beside the Father — or at the right hand of YAHWEH’s throne — with the glory that HE (YAHWEH God) HAD IN STORE for him — BEFORE the Kingdom of God (YAHWEH) and BEFORE the NEW WORLD that is to come.

The Messiah knew full well that he was to die and be resurrected by YAHWEH God. He also knew that he was to be allowed to take his rightful place at the right side of YAHWEH, and that is exactly what we find in the other scriptures that interpret this scripture. Notice Hebrews 1:1-3:

Therefore, holy brothers, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the apostle (the one sent) and High Priest of our profession, Yeshua the Messiah; who was faithful to Him: YAHWEH, Who BEGOT HIM, just as Moses was faithful in all his house. Now this one (the Messiah) was counted worthy of more GLORY than Moses, since he who has built the House of YAHWEH has more honor than the House of YAHWEH.

This GLORY was in fulfillment of Biblical prophecy — and this glory was only to BEGIN to take place in a certain time period. In the following verses we find written:

Hebrews 1:13: But to which of the angels has He (YAHWEH) ever said: sit at my right hand — until I make your enemies your footstool?

Psalm 110:1: YAHWEH said to my ruler and king: sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.

1 Peter 1:11: Examining closely to what things, or what manner of season, which the spirit that was in them made clear to them, when it testified BEFOREHAND to the sufferings of Messiah, and the GLORY THAT WOULD FOLLOW.

1 Peter 5:1: The elders who are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of the Messiah, and ALSO A PARTAKER of the GLORY THAT WILL BE REVEALED:

We must realize that we too can look forward to this SAME glory that the Messiah will receive. Just as the apostles looked forward to this glory, so should we. Notice 2 Peter 1:3:

As His holy power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and holiness, through the full knowledge of Him Who called US to GLORY and virtue.

This was the very glory that the Messiah was talking about — glory he knew he would receive because it was written in the prophets! He knew he would RECEIVE this glory AFTER HIS RESURRECTION — he did not have this glory before his human birth! Yeshua the Messiah, as the only BEGOTTEN son of YAHWEH God, will always have the honor of being at his Father’s right hand — but he did not receive this honor (glory) until AFTER his resurrection!

The word translated “glory” is word #1391 in Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon, and means:

2. magnificence, excellence, preeminence, dignity, a most glorious condition, most exalted state; a. of that condition with God the Father in heaven to which Christ was raised after he had achieved his work on earth: Lk. xxai. 26; Jn. xvii. 5

As the Bible says, the Messiah will receive his glory and then his enemies will be made his footstool. In 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 we clearly see that the last enemy that will be destroyed is DEATH — but we also can see that YAHWEH God will always be exalted as THE SUPREME HEAD over ALL, even by Yeshua himself, who sits at YAHWEH’s right hand —

Then the end, when he (the Messiah) will have handed over the Kingdom to YAHWEH, to our Father, when he (the Messiah) will have destroyed every other rule, and every authority and power. For he (the Messiah) MUST REIGN until he has put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. For YAHWEH has put all things under his feet. But when it says that everything has been put under him, it is clear that THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE YAHWEH HIMSELF, Who put everything under Yeshua. When He has done this, then the son himself WILL BE SUBJECT TO HIM Who put all things under him, so that YAHWEH may be acknowledged as THE SUPREME HEAD OVER ALL.

Clearly, when the Messiah appears on this earth again (as pictured in Revelation 10) he will have all authority to destroy all other rules, authorities and powers. He will reign on earth until he has put all enemies under his feet and then, when YAHWEH’s Shekinah Glory returns to this earth (Revelation 19:11) to reside in the Temple built by the Messiah, the Messiah will hand all power over to Him and become subject to Him — acknowledging that YAHWEH God is the SUPREME HEAD over ALL. Yeshua the Messiah will then become our High Priest, ministering to YAHWEH his Father in the Temple of YAHWEH God!

The Messiah was NOT speaking of “past glory”, nor of a “past life” — as count-less deceived people have believed. Unfortunately, people are deceived because of the pagan lies that the translators have inserted into the scriptures! The Messiah was speaking of the glory he WAS to RECEIVE after he was resurrected; the glory of the only BEGOTTEN son of the Father, full of mercy and truth!

The glory of being the ONLY begotten son of YAHWEH — the FIRSTBORN from the dead, is the glory the Messiah has NOW, and will forevermore have! But — and let this sink in – the Messiah DID NOT have this glory previously, because he simply DID NOT EXIST before he was begotten by YAHWEH God and born as a flesh and blood human being! Read 1 Peter 1:19-20:

But with the precious blood of Messiah, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: who truly was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was MANIFEST in these last times for you; who through him we do believe in YAHWEH, who raised him up from the dead, and GAVE HIM GLORY; that your faith and hope might be in YAHWEH.

Proof #7

7/. I Timothy 3:16. Another verse which is used by those who have been deceived by the pagan ideas of the translators is found in I Timothy 3:16 in the King James Version. However, this “translation” is simply NOT FOUND in most of the other modern versions! In the King James Version this reads —

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

The Concordant Version of the Sacred Scriptures — written in the ancient Greek form — reveals that the word “WHO” — NOT the word “God” — was originally in the text! Furthermore, The Emphatic Diaglott shows us that the word “God” was NOT in the Alexandrian Manuscript — nor was it in almost all of the other ancient manuscripts. Notice —

Nearly all the ancient MSS., and all the versions have “He who,” instead of “God,” in this passage.

Taking this theme further, the book Forgery in Christianity (by Wheless) informs us —

In the King James or “Authorized” Version we read: “Great is the mystery of Godliness: God was manifest in the flesh,” etc. (1 Tim. iii, 16.) In the “Revised Version” this “God Manifest” forged inter-polation is shamed out of the text, which there honestly reads: “He who was manifested in the flesh,” etc. Thus the great “mystery of godliness,” premised in the text, is no longer a mystery; and the fraudulent insertion into the text by some over-zealous Christian forger, seeking to bolster up an “apostolic” pedigree for the later “tradition” of the divinity of the Christ, is confessed.

The Revised Standard Version of the Bible has corrected this verse, saying —

Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of our religion: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

The CORRECT translation of this verse should read as follows —

And without controversy, great is the secret of holiness: HE WHO WAS MANIFESTED IN THE FLESH, was justified in spirit, was seen by angels, was preached to the Gentiles, was believed on in the world, was received up into HIS GLORY.

As you can see for yourself there has been blatant forgery and deception carried out by the translators of YAHWEH’s Word — deception perpetrated in order to promulgate the LIE of a “pre-existent” savior who was God manifested in the flesh! Don’t fall for it!

Proof #8

8/. Hebrew 1:8-9. Another scripture that has deceived many in the Churches of God, who quite often use these verses to “prove” that the Messiah was a pre-existing being, is that of Hebrews 1:8-9. Some use these verses to claim the Messiah was an angel, while others use it to claim Yeshua was God. Notice what the King James Version says —

But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

The way these verses have been translated in the King James Version would have those with a shallow knowledge of the Bible believe that the Messiah is here called “God”! However, a little research into the Bible will reveal that Hebrews 1:8-9 is a DIRECT QUOTE from Psalm 45:6-7 in the Old Testament.

Notice how it is rendered in The Holy Name Bible:

Thine arrows are sharp in the heart of the King’s enemies; whereby the people fall under Thee. Thy throne, O Elohim, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of Thy kingdom is a right sceptre. Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore Elohim, Thy Elohim, hath anointed Thee with the oil of gladness above Thy fellows.

The Lexicon In Veteris Testamenti Libros, by Ludwig Koehler and Walter Baumgartner, shows that the word “Elohim” was used to REPLACE the Name of YAHWEH (p. 51). This is corroborated in A Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament by Brown, Driver and Briggs, which says that Elohim was inserted “often by editorial change for an original YHVH” p. 44). The Name of “YAHWEH” was replaced by the PAGAN title “Elohim” in Psalm 45:6-7.

Unfortunately, this is not the only translation problem encountered in these verses. Notice the author’s comments in The Anchor Bible, Psalms I —

The eternal and everlasting God has enthroned you! The scepter of your kingdom must be a scepter of equity. You must love justice and hate iniquity, because God, your God, has anointed you.

has enthroned you. Vocalizing kisse’ ka, a denominative piel from kisse’, “throne.” The only evidence for this proposal is its manifest good sense, its concordance with the Ugaritic-Hebrew proclivity for coining such verbs (Biblica 44 [1963], 204f.) and, negatively, the unsatisfactory nature of the numberless solutions which have been proffered on behalf of this crux interpretum.

In other words, kisse’ ka lohim is stylistically parallel to vs. 3, berak ka lohim, “God has blessed you,” and stylistically and semantically parallel to vs. 8, m sah ka lohim, “God has anointed you.” Some commentators (as early as 1790) have felt that a verb is needed here and have accordingly supplied hekin or something similar; cf. King, A study of Psalm 45 (44), p. 79.

There have been many different solutions offered in solving the problem of correctly interpreting this verse. But see how this verse is translated from the Hebrew in The Holy Bible, Second Part, Division 2 —

Thy throne, GIVEN OF GOD, endureth for ever and ever: the sceptre of equity is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

As we just saw, the Name of “YAHWEH” was replaced with the word “Elohim.” Therefore, by putting the name of “YAHWEH” BACK into this verse — along with the true translation of the Hebrew text — we get the TRUE TRANSLATION of Psalm 45:6-7. Notice!

Your throne, given of YAHWEH, is for ever and ever; the scepter; ruling staff, of your kingdom is a scepter; ruling rod, of righteousness. You, too, have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore YAHWEH your FATHER has anointed you with the oil of gladness over your fellow men.

And this is EXACTLY how Hebrews 1:8-9 should have been translated – because it is a DIRECT quotation! We know that the author of the Book of Hebrews (Paul) was not saying anything that was not already in the Book of Psalms, because he was quoting from it. Psalm 45:6-7 is a prophecy that will take place when the Messiah is crowned king under his Father YAHWEH. The Messiah did NOT “have” this throne when the Psalms were written — because he did not yet exist!

And the Messiah does not “have” this throne even at THIS TIME because all things have not YET been out under him, referring to the world to come — as pointed out in Hebrews 2:5-8:

For it is NOT to the angels that He has subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking; for one brings testimony in a certain place, saying: What is man, that You are mindful of him, or the son of man, that You visit him? You made him a little lower than the angels; You crowned him with glory and honor, and did set him over the works of Your hands. You have put all things in subjection under his feet. In putting everything in subjection under him, YAHWEH left nothing that is not subject to him — but at this time we do NOT YET see all things put under him.

Notice the last part of verse 8 closely: These things are NOT under the Messiah yet, but they will be one day soon — because this was in YAHWEH’s plan from the very beginning! Therefore, Psalm 45:6-7 and Hebrews 1:8-9 are the SAME prophecy which will take place in the near future, concerning the only begotten son of YAHWEH God — but they do NOT teach of any pre-existent god-savior!

Proof #9

9/. Daniel 3:25. Those who try to deceive you will more than likely use Daniel 3:25 to “prove” that the son of God was pre-existent. Don’t fall for it! This scrip-ture, in the King James Version, reads as follows —

He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

The first thing you should realize is the fact that there are many sources out there that know this verse has been mistranslated — Clarke’s Commentary is one of them —

Verse 25. [Is like the Son of God.] A most improper translation. What notion could this idolatrous king have of the Lord Jesus Christ? for so the place [verse] understood by thousands.

…. bar elahin signifies a son of the gods, that is, a Divine person or angel; and so the king calls him in verse 28: “God hath sent his ANGEL, and delivered his servants.” And though even from this some still contend that it was the Angel of the covenant, yet the Babylonish king knew just as much of the one as he did of the other. No other ministration was necessary; a single angel from heaven was quite sufficient to answer this purpose, as that which stopped the mouths of the lions when Daniel was cast into their den.

It is quite amazing that there are people who say this fourth person was the Messiah. They, of course, are trying to deceive you into thinking that the Messiah was alive at the time. But even a cursory examination of this verse indicates that there is absolutely NOTHING here that names the Messiah or says that he pre-existed!

Now, let us notice WHAT was said — and by WHOM. The statement made in Daniel 3:25 was spoken by Nebuchadnezzar, the king of Babylon — just as Daniel 3:24 clearly states. Nebuchadnezzar was a pagan who had just made an image of himself and had commanded all in his kingdom to worship it. He then cast Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego into the furnace because they refused to worship this image — they would worship YAHWEH God only.

It was this same Nebuchadnezzar who made this statement in Daniel 3:25: “…the fourth looks like the son of the gods.” Are we to suppose, then, that this pagan king who was trying to kill the servants of YAHWEH, said: “…the fourth looks like Yeshua, the Son of YAHWEH“? This is EXACTLY what the deceivers would like you to believe!

YAHWEH God has many angels, and he does send them to help us at times — like the ones YAHWEH sent to help Lot and Abraham. The Bible also shows that many times these angels have the appearance of HUMAN BEINGS — and this is exactly how King Nebuchadnezzar described the fourth man in Daniel 3:25. He did NOT say: “…I see Yeshua…”. Neither did he say: “…I see the Son of YAHWEH God…”.

Do not allow anyone to deceive you about this!!

Proof #10

10/. Proverbs 30:4. This verse — in the King James Version — reads:

Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell?

Once again, this particular scripture is TWISTED by the false ministers in the world who claim that it teaches that the Messiah was already in existence at that time. But this verse in NO WAY refers to the Messiah — and it is hard to believe that any serious student of the Bible could use this verse to justify such an under-standing. But, sadly, they do. Correctly translated, this verse reads:

Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound up the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is HIS NAME? What is THE NAME of His sons? Tell me if you know!

Here is a copy of Proverbs 30:4 from the Greek Septuagint Version, from which this verse was translated —

Who hath ascended up to heaven and come down? Who hath collected the winds in his bosom? Who hath infolded the water in a mantle? Who hath a dominion over all the ends of the earth? What is his name? or what is the name of his sons?

The Anchor Bible, Proverbs, on page 176, corroborates this translation and plainly says that the sons who are being spoken of refer to the HEAVENLY HOST — in other words, the ANGELS! Notice what it says —

4. Who has ascended the sky. Cf. Job xxxviii 3-38; Isa xl 12ff.; Unless his name is known, neither god nor man can be known as real’ cf. Gen xxxii 29; Exod iii 13; Isa lii 6. his sons’. The divine beings of the heavenly host; cf. Ps lxxxii 6; Job xxxviii 7. Surely you know. Cf. Job xxxviii 5.

This was NOT speaking of the Messiah going back and forth from heaven to earth, this was speaking of YAHWEH God’s MESSENGERS — the angels! The Messiah was not an angel, as the Bible clearly states –

Hebrews 1:13 — But to which of the angels has He ever said: Sit at My right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool?

Hebrews 2:5 — For it is not to the angels that He has subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking.

Hebrews 2:16 — For truly, He does not take hold of angels, but He takes hold of the seed of Abraham.

There are absolutely NO direct statements to the effect that any beings existed beside YAHWEH God before He created the angels. But, there are MANY direct scriptures which say emphatically that YAHWEH God was ALONE at creation, and that there was NONE BESIDE HIM!

Isaiah 43:11 (King James Version) — I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Isaiah 44:6, 8 (King James Version) — Thus saith the King of Israyl, and his redeemer [YAHWEH] of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside ME there is NO GOD. Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a GOD beside ME? yea, there is NO GOD; I know not any.

Isaiah 45:5 (King James Version) — I am [YAHWEH], and there is NONE ELSE, there is NO GOD beside ME: I girded thee, though thou has not known ME.

Proof #11

11/. Isaiah 9:6. It is generally known in scholarly circles that the King James Version of the Bible contains literally THOUSANDS of mistakes and deliberate fraud. The trouble is, even though the scholars admit this fact no one wants to buck the system and correct these mistakes! No one, it seems, wants to suffer the persecution this entails. The King James translation of Isaiah 9:6 is just one of these cases of deliberate fraud foisted off onto deceived people. This translation infers that the SON (Yeshua the Messiah) was the “mighty God”; that he was the “everlasting Father” — in other words, that he was PRE-EXISTENT! Let us set the record straight and present the TRUTH about that lie. Isaiah 9:6 in the King James Version has KEY words that are mistranslated —

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the govern-ment shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

The first word underlined — which has been translated “Wonderful” — is word #6382, from word #6381 in Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary —

6382. …. pele’, peh’-leh; from 6381; a miracle:- marvellous thing, wonder (-ful, -fully).

In its original form this word was not the adjective “Wonderful” in Isaiah 9:6, but the NOUN “wonder” — and it is also part of the phrase pele-yaotz, as the Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament shows. The word “Counsellor” — although relatively accurately translated — is translated from the Hebrew word “yaotz,” word #3289 in Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary; but the word “yaotz” is clearly shown from the previous reference to be part of a PHRASE — not words with separate meanings! If you check it out for yourself you will see that this phrase actually means: “WONDER of a Counselor”! See how deceptive the translators have been? The “WONDER” of the Counselor is the Ideal Ruler foretold to come — which The Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testa-ment (p. 419) clearly and emphatically shows.

Now, WHO is this “Counselor,” of Whom this child who is to be BORN is to be a “WONDER” or an Ideal Ruler? In the next words mistranslated in the King James Version we find the answer to this question.

The words “MIGHTY” and “GOD” in the King James Version — as well as other mistranslated versions — were translated from the Hebrew words “GABUR” AND “EL,” words #1386 and #410 in Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary. According to the Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament (p. 149), the word “GA-BUR” is a word that means “mighty.”

The Soncino Talmud, The Babylonian Talmud, Seder Nezikin, Sanhedrin, 94a, translated by Dr. I. Epstein, shows the word “EL” to mean “judge” in this particular place!

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the govern-ment shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called [i] Wonderful, [ii] Counsellor, [iii] Mighty, [iv] Judge.*

* For this meaning of el, cf. Ex. XXI, 6; XXII, 8.

Yes, judgment has been given into the hands of Yeshua the Messiah — just as Acts 10:38-42 emphatically tells us —

How God [YAHWEH] anointed Jesus [Yeshua] of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God [YAHWEH] was with him. And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem, whom they killed by hanging on a tree. Him God [YAHWEH] raised up on the third day, and showed him openly, not to all the people, but to witnesses chosen before by God [YAHWEH], even to us who ate and drank with him after he arose from the dead. And he commanded us to preach to the people, and to testify that it is He who was ordained by God [YAHWEH] to be JUDGE of the living and the dead.

The Messiah will be the JUDGE appointed by YAHWEH God, whose JUDGMENT — according to YAHWEH’s judgments — will bring peace to this earth. And because Yeshua the Messiah will command that each and every word YAHWEH God has spoken is to be obeyed — completely – the Messiah will BE “The Prince of Peace.”

The Hebrew words “el” and “gabur” — when properly translated — would be writ-ten in this fashion: “JUDGE OF THE MIGHTY.” Therefore, Isaiah 9:6 is translated word for word as:

For a child is born to us, a son is given to us, and is called His Name, Wonder of the Counselor, the Judge of the Mighty Father Everlasting, Prince of Peace.

As a result, Isaiah 9:6, when properly translated into modern English, will read as follows:

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government will be upon his shoulders. And his name will be called the WONDER of the Counselor, the JUDGE of the Mighty Everlasting Father — the PRINCE of peace.

As pointed out, the COUNSELOR is “The Mighty, Everlasting Father – YAHWEH God Himself! As the Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament (p. 810) points out, Isaiah 9:6 is showing that this “WONDER” (Messiah the Judge) of the “COUNSELOR” (YAHWEH the Father) — Yeshua the Messiah who is the Ideal Ruler — was YET TO COME when this prophecy was spoken! The Messiah DID NOT exist in the time of Isaiah the prophet, but he was prophesied to come later.

And — and please take careful note of this – the Messiah WAS NOT “The Mighty God, the Father” — as the fraudulent translators of the King James Version of the Bible, as well as the rest of the deceived world, would like for YOU to believe! When this scripture is properly translated it agrees totally with all the other inspired scriptures of YAHWEH God. It was not the inspired prophets of YAHWEH who were trying to teach of a “pre-existent god-savior.” It was the PAGAN TRANSLATORS — adding to or deleting from the original inspired word of YAHWEH God, who caused this grave error to be taught to this whole deceived “Christian” world as “doctrine.”

Proof #12

12/. Ephesians 3:9. Here is a scripture in the King James version that fools the unlearned into believing that it was the Messiah who was “the Creator.” In fact, many of the Churches of God teach that “in the beginning there were TWO GODS,” and that “one god decided to become the father god and the other decided he would be god the son.” This is totally ridiculous! Let us try and understand WHY some have become CONFUSED — and also WHAT the real meaning of this verse is.

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

By just reading this verse it is easy to think that YAHWEH the Father gave orders to create all things, and that these orders were carried out by Yeshua the Messiah. Once again, this world has been DECEIVED into believing this LIE because the LAST THREE WORDS in the King James Version were ADDED to this scripture by the translators! These last three words were NOT in the original manuscripts! The Emphatic Diaglott, as well as The Interlinear Greek-English New Testament clearly show that these words were added.

By adding these last three words to the King James Version, the whole meaning of Ephesians 3:9 has been ALTERED! Clarke’s Commentary (p. 445) shows these words to be missing in many manuscripts! Notice —

But the words …., by Jesus Christ, are wanting in ABCD*FG, and several others; also in the Syriac, Arabic of Erpen, Coptic, Ethiopic, Vulgate, and Itala; as also in several of the fathers. Griesbach has thrown the words out of the text; and Professor White says, “certissime delenda,” they are indisputably spurious. The text, therefore, should be read: which from the beginning of the world had been hidden in God who created all things. No inferiority of Christ can be argued from a clause of whose spuriousness there is the strongest evidence.

This verse, from The Ryrie Study Bible, New American Standard Version, reads —

and to bring to light what is the administration of the mystery which for ages has been hidden in God, who created all things;

The Revised Standard Version shows these words are NOT in this translation:

and to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things;

Correctly translated, therefore, this verse should read —

And to make all men plainly see how this secret is administered; which has been hidden in YAHWEH from the beginning of the ages, Who created all things.

Merely by leaving out the fraudulent words ADDED by uninspired men, we see that the apostle Paul was saying that great secret was hidden in YAHWEH God Who created all things — NOT in the Messiah who came into existence later!

That the Messiah created everything was totally unknown to the Apostolic Fathers. One of the earliest non-Biblical statements of Christian faith is found in a book of 16 short chapters known as The Didache, or Teaching of the Twelve Apostles. The author of this book is unknown, but historians have dated it to before or about the year 100 A.D. The Didache deals with concepts people would need to know to become Christians. In chapter 7, it prescribes baptism “in the name of the Father and of the son and of the holy spirit,” the same words the Messiah used in Matthew 28:19. But it says absolutely nothing about the three being equal in eternity, power, position and wisdom, or that the Messiah created everything at his Father’s command.

In its 10th chapter, The Didache includes the following confession of faith in the form of a prayer:

We thank you, Holy Father, for your holy Name which you have made to dwell in our hearts; and for the knowledge and faith and immortality which you have made known to us through JESUS YOUR SERVANT. Glory to you forever! YOU, Almighty Master, CREATED EVERYTHING for your Name’s sake…And to us you have graciously given spiritual food and drink, and life eternal through Jesus your servant (The Apostolic Fathers, Vol. 3, pp. 166-7).

Clearly, there is no sign of the Messiah having created everything is this pas-sage! In fact, it emphatically states that YAHWEH God created everything!

In The Influence of Greek Ideas on Christianity, Edwin Hatch quotes the fore-going passage and then says —

In the original sphere of Christianity there does not appear to have been any great advance upon these simple conceptions. The doctrine upon which stress was laid was, that God [YAHWEH] is, that He is one, that He is almighty and everlasting, that HE MADE THE WORLD, that His mercy is over all His works. There was no taste for metaphysical discussion (p. 252).

It should be CLEAR to any honest-minded person that deliberate deception, by deceived men, has taken place in the King James Version of the Bible — deceitful men whose sole ambition was to deceive you and lead you astray! And because these deceitful men have led thousands away from the every Word of YAHWEH God, they have successfully led them away from the TRUE SAVIOR sent by YAHWEH!

The Messiah warned us of false messiahs and religious impostors, whose purpose was to deceive and be deceived. However, it is difficult to grasp the extremes to which these deceivers went to in order to bring forth a “pre-existent god-savior” who “did it all for you,” so all you have to do now is simply “believe.” The REAL PERSON behind these deceptions is, of course, Satan the Devil, whose sole purpose is to destroy mankind. The religious impostors who altered the Holy Scriptures of YAHWEH God and those who believe these same lies, are all headed for the same destruction. In Matthew 15:14 we read —

Let them alone. They are BLIND LEADERS of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, BOTH will fall into the ditch.

It is high time for US to remove the blinders and shake off the DECEPTIONS of this generation and come to the realization of the TRUTH of YAHWEH! Or, as the apostle Peter said in Acts 2:40 — “SAVE YOURSELF FROM THIS PERVERSE GENERATION!”

Why Yeshua Could NOT Have Pre-Existed

One could easily say, “Sure, he overcame, he was a God, but we are only human beings.” Or one could say, “Sure, he overcame, he was an angel.” But the fact is, the Messiah was neither “god” nor “angel” — he was a FLESHLY HUMAN BEING who overcame! Hebrews 2:17 plainly tells us the following —

For this reason he had to be MADE LIKE his brothers in EVERY WAY, in order that he might BECOME a merciful and faithful High Priest in service to YAHWEH, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people.

The Messiah suffered ALL the temptations which all other human beings suffer, as Hebrews 2:18 most emphatically records —

For in that he himself has suffered, being tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.

The FACT of the matter is, the Messiah HAD to be human, in order to PROVE that YAHWEH’s created mankind CAN OVERCOME! Yeshua the Messiah HAD to PROVE that, yes, it is possible — with the help of YAHWEH’s holy spirit — to RESIST SATAN!

Yeshua was BORN flesh and blood. It was absolutely necessary for our Messiah, our High Priest, and our Savior chosen by YAHWEH God, to be born flesh and blood — in order that he could, in his OWN HUMAN SELF, PROVE that totally righteous beings COULD be developed from flesh and blood beings. And, in PROVING that flesh and blood COULD OVERCOME, he also proved that YAHWEH God’s plan from the beginning — the building of the perfect God (YAHWEH) family from flesh and blood mankind does work!

Since the Messiah himself, being flesh and blood, OVERCAME, even though he suffered and was tempted, we too, being flesh and blood, can OVERCOME, even though we suffer and are tempted.

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